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š¤ Patience, Probably a Virtue?
Why bet +2.5 when +3 is better?
In the words of Larry David, āYou wait. YOU. WAIT.ā
In todayās Betting Life newsletter presented by Prop Drop:
Navigating +2.5: āPatience,ā but in an Axl Rose voice.
Player Props! Taysom Hillā¦ once againā¦
A Group Chat Parlay: Da Bears.
The sharps: What theyāre betting this week.
SNF Betting: Offense. Offense everywhere.
Itās 11/5: Take it away, Matthew Freedmanā¦
In the Thursday Betting Life Newsletter, I highlighted the optimal ways to bet short underdogs.
For teams getting between +0.5 and +2.5 points, the moneyline has historically been more profitable than the spread. Also, for teams between +1.5 and +2.5, a great option is six-point teasers.
One thing I didnāt discuss was how to navigate the pivotal number of +2.5.
Iāll do that now, using a few games from Week 9 as jumping-off points.
āļø Buccaneers +2.5 at Texans
The Buccaneers opened as +2.5 underdogs in the lookahead market and the early market ā and the spread stayed at that number for most of the week until Saturday, when it hit +3 (PointsBet), where I logged it in our FREE Fantasy Life Bet Tracker.
In my Wednesday best bets article (written before we got injury reports for the teams playing this weekend) I had this line projected at +2 and said this about the Buccaneers: āI will probably bet this if it gets to +3. If it doesnāt, Iāll consider teasing the Buccaneers up to +8.5.ā
Why wait for +3?
I didnāt see enough projection value at +2.5 to justify a bet. And, more importantly, I saw sufficient pragmatic value at +3 ā since thatās a key NFL number ā to justify waiting to see if the market moved there.
But what happens if the market stays at +2.5? Either I donāt make a bet ā or I bet the moneyline or include the Buccaneers in a teaser.
And what happens if the market moves against me? What if the spread moves down to +2 or even +1.5? At those numbers, the Buccaneers can still be teased through the key numbers of +3 and +7, so little is lost.
Takeaway: At +2.5, itās often worth waiting to see how the market develops, because the upside of +3 far outweighs the downside of +2 and +1.5.
š¬ Dolphins +2.5 vs. Chiefs, Bills +2.5 at Bengals
Despite what I just said ā that itās often worth waiting at +2.5 to see if the line moves to +3 ā I have a personal exception to that guideline.
If my projection shows value at +2.5 and/or if I strongly believe that the line will close below +2.5 and has a real chance to hit +1 ā where itās far less attractive in a teaser ā then I might opt to tease an underdog early in the week, just to be sure that I donāt miss out on it in case the number rapidly moves.
And thatās why on Monday I teased the Dolphins and Bills from +2.5 to +8.5.
Given that they both play in spotlight games, I thought they might attract extra attention early, especially since the Dolphins departed for Germany on Monday and the Bills were -1.5 favorites in the look-ahead market.
As of writing (3:30 pm ET on Saturday), the Dolphins are +2 and the Bills are +2.5 at Circa, which I consider to be a sharper sportsbook ā but they both hit +1 earlier in the week, so at least my general thesis (that the Dolphins and Bills could see their lines drop) was directionally correct.
I might ultimately be wrong in backing the Dolphins and Bills, but thatās the explanation of what I considered when teasing them early in the week instead of waiting for the +3.
Takeaway: If you see significant value at +2.5 and/or expect the line to move down and maybe reach +1, then you might want to bet the underdog right away.
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Every week, Matthew Freedman writes an article with five of his favorite player props. Here are a couple of them, which you can find (along with lots of other bets) in our 100% FREE bet tracker.
Projection: 22.4
Cutoff: 19.5
I have successfully bet the over on Hillās rushing yardage prop for the past two weeks, and I still think itās too low given Hillās consistent workload and production.
Since last year ā when OC Pete Carmichael assumed playcalling duties after the departure of HC Sean Payton ā Hill has played in 24 games, all of them as a non-QB offensive weapon. In those games, he has averaged 5.6 carries for 32.4 yards with medians of five carries and 20 yards.
Hill is technically classified as a QB by the Saints, and among all QBs with at least 40 āplaysā (passes, sacks, and carries) he is No. 1 in composite EPA and CPOE (+0.231, per RBs Donāt Matter).
Whenever the Saints have put the ball in Hillās hands, they have been explosive (5.8 yards per carry, 14.5 AY/A since last year), so I expect them to continue to give him opportunities, especially as a runner.
Over the past two weeks, the team has made a concerted effort to get Hill the ball, resulting in a 20% designed rush rate (per our Fantasy Life Utilization Report).
I expect him to have a comparable run rate this week.
Projection: 43.1
Cutoff: 45.5
From the perspective of the point spread, I have the dropoff from Kirk Cousins (Achilles, IR) to Jaren Hall as -6.4 points.
Without Cousins (and with Hall), the Vikings might be the worst team in the league.
Hereās what I said about Hall in my preseason Vikings betting preview:
āHall is a dual-threat fifth-round rookie with unimpressive size (6-foot and 207 pounds), advanced age (25 years old) and solid production (5,754 yards, 51 TDs passing; 148-657-6 rushing in two starting seasons).ā
Hall is undersized and a scrambler, which means heās less likely than the average QB to stay in the pocket and pass when he feels pressure, which translates into fewer target opportunities for the Vikings pass catchers.
Hall is old ā and generally the younger a QB is when he enters the league, the better. And Hall is a late-round rookie, which is a negative on its own, and itās rare for a Day 3 QB to have success if he started just two seasons in college.
With Hall, the offense could struggle mightily to move the ball through the air.
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Welcome to Week 9 of Bets from the Group Chat. This is where I (Geoff Ulrich) elicit as much information as possible from my Fantasy Life colleagues about their bets for this week.
If youāre tailing our group parlays from this segment, weāre now 1-2 (+3.43 units) after last week, when the Steelers and Cam Akers receiving yards were losers.
You can find a bigger overall recap using the link at the bottom, but for now, letās get right into the Week 9 plays.
š° Group Chat Parlay
š» Mark Drumheller Likes: Bears +8.5 (-110, BetMGM)
Play to +8.5 (-120)
The Bears have risen to +8.5 from +5.0 where this game opened. Their offense is ugly but chasing this much steam with the Saints also seems like a recipe for disaster.
Derek Carr is also 8-24-2 ATS for his career when he comes into a game as a favorite of 3.0 points or more. Taking the Bears ā whose number has shot up by 3.0 points ā just off that trend alone seems warranted.
Play to 18.5 (-110)
Aggregate projection: 22.4 rush yards
Hill has a 20% designed rush rate over his last two games. As Freedman noted in his prop article this week, the Saints OC Pete Carmichael is bullish on getting Hill involved.
Letās double-dip from this game. The Saints seem likely to use Hill lots again, either to help salt the game away or to provide a spark if Derek Carr struggles.
Play to 13.5 (-120)
Aggregate projection: 14.4 attempts
Swift has gone over 13.5 attempts in four of his last five games. Last year, the Eagles ran Miles Sanders 18 and 21 times in two games against Dallas, and this week we also have a situation where backup Kenneth Gainwell is in the doghouse.
Swift is projected for over 14 carries this week on Fantasy Life. I think thereās a good chance he will go over this mark quite easily in Week 9.
š¤ Putting it all together: +549, BetMGM
š Week 9 Ladder Plays
Ladder bets are where you spread your unit allocation over different milestones.
The idea is to access bigger payouts while maintaining some exposure to the higher probability outcome lines as well.
The Week 9 ladder targets are below.
50+ rec yards (+168) - play to +150
75+ rec yards (+520) - play to +500
100+ rec yards (+920) - play to +900
Iāve been high on Mingo since he landed in Carolina. He was a great yards after-the-catch (yac) accumulator in college (16.5 ypc) and landed in a weak WR room.
He hasnāt broken out yet but itās clear the Panthers want him to develop. Heās averaged a 96% route rate over his last two games, with a 17% (or better) target share in two of his last three starts.
The Colts are 26th in yards per pass attempt against and have allowed the ninth-most yards to opposing WRs. Mingo went for 50+ yards last week and plays a weaker secondary that has allowed four WRs (in 8 games) to go for over 100 yards.
š Thursday Night Football Redux: The Steelers won againā¦ and they still look like a bad team.
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š Taking a look at the smart kidās homework. Where sharps are betting for Week 9.
āļø Sunday Night Football: Playoff. Leverage.
You can access everything you need for Bills vs. Bengals in our Game Hub, including projection guidance, bets, and more. Looking for a peek behind the curtain? Weāve got you covered.
Sunday Night Football features a surging Bengals team hosting a slumping Bills squad. Can the Bengals keep their three-game winning streak rolling, or will the Bills bounce back? Matt LaMarca is here to break it down and highlight some of his favorite bets for the gameā¦
Iām slightly conflicted about this game. I think the Bills remain extremely talented, and they could flip the switch at any moment. However, without Matt Milano and TreāDavious White, their defense is not equipped to handle the Bengals offense.
With Joe Burrow returning to form against the 49ers, I think thereās still time to get back on the Bengals bandwagon. Burrow is 20-12 ATS for his career as an underdog or favorite of less than a field goal, good for a +19.9% return on investment. The Bengals were also the most profitable ATS team over the previous two seasons, going 27-13 (including playoffs).
With Dawson Knox sidelined, the sky is the limit for the talented rookie as the top tight end in Buffalo. Heās coming off a season-high 85% route rate in Week 8, and heās finished with at least five receptions and 65 yards in back-to-back games.
The matchup is also a good one, with the Bengals ranking dead last in fantasy points allowed to opposing tight ends this season.
We have Kincaid projected for closer to 45 yards, and Iām happy to play the over on Kincaidās receiving prop up to that number.
50+ RuYds (+100)
75+ RuYds (+350)
100+ RuYds (+725)
If youāre unfamiliar with ladder betting, Iād highly recommend checking out Geoff Ulrichās primer from this offseason. Youāre looking to take a single player to hit various statistical thresholds, with each ārungā earning a bigger payout.
For SNF, Iām looking to climb the ladder with Cook. His utilization has been solid as the Billsā clear No.1 back, and the Bengals have been exploitable against the run this season. Theyāre merely 23rd in EPA/rush and 22nd in rushing Success Rate defensively.
Cook also boasts blazing speed, so he can turn any carry into a huge gain. We havenāt seen that yet this season ā his longest carry is just 36 yards ā but heās a home-run hitter. He doesnāt necessarily need 20+ carries to get to 100 yards, so I think heās a strong ladder candidate in this spot.
Bengals -2.5
Over 50.5
Burrow 3+ PaTDs
JaāMarr Chase ATD
Cook 50+ RuYds
This feels like a lot for just a +1100 payout, but I think these bets all correlate together extremely well. Burrow and Chase correlate with both the Bengals -2.5 and over 50.5 points, so itās not surprising that weāre not getting tremendous odds there.
Cook is the only leg that doesnāt fit like a glove, but I think 50+ yards is very reasonable given everything mentioned above. Heās hit this threshold in five of his past seven games, including each of his past three.